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Okay, Thanks to Remi, it got me thinking about fitting a set of LED headlight bulbs to my F8GT. I do 3D design & modelling for my own business so have no problems knocking up some caps to cover. I wanted to replace the whole cap rather than cut the original in case I wanted to return to stock later.
I got my set from a UK supplier via eBay so are different to the ones Remi has and also have the ballast built into the unit so a cleaner install.
Also I have my own FDM printer to do such things on so easy for me to play...

I printed my own design of cap from PETG material and it came out quite well, I just copied the original cap and then edited it to enlarge it to cope with the LED bulbs. I just fit the rubber seal off the standard cap to the 3D print cap for the seal.
Actually designing for FDM printing has some challanges to overcome to finish so not quite as easy as it sounds but once you have worked with FDM printing and got used to what you can and cannot do it becomes second nature when designing for FDM production.

The latch is not quite right (it's such a small detent on the housing) so I'm making version 2 which will have two lugs in case I need to secure it better with springs or something in case the latch pops off. Also on the low beam cap I am designing a boss to accept a on/off switch so I can run with the low beam off if I wish. When I'm training and behind student it's good to switch off the light as they can see my indicators better (that's how I tell which way I want them to go if I'm not on radio) and it doesn't distract them with the light off if I'm moving about behind for a safer position. so with me fumbling for the switch before we set off I wanted a very secure install.



Sadly, I still quite enjoy playing with stuff like this even when I spend all day doing it for work related projects, but especially when it has to to do with my motorcycles.

Version 2 to follow, and when my black PETG comes in I'll print mine in black instead of bright yellow [8D]
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QUOTE=Wisconsinkris;2314753]Two photos from a night ride

Cyclops h7 bulb ...[/QUOTE]

It seems the light is quite concentrated in the foreground to the extent I'm not sure if either or both are low or high beam.:confused:
 
QUOTE=Wisconsinkris;2314753]Two photos from a night ride

Cyclops h7 bulb ...

It seems the light is quite concentrated in the foreground to the extent I'm not sure if either or both are low or high beam.:confused:
I added and labeled the photos better. Sorry that they are taken with an iPhone but that is what I have. When high beams are on the auto adjust the iPhone does dims the up close.

The photos do not do justice to what the eyes see.
 
Kristoffer, did you have to adjust your headlights afterward?

I'm waiting about a half hour and then I'll post some pictures. I just finished with the high beam. One of my cameras is a DSLR and I can duplicate the same settings I used last night with the OEM bulbs, so we can get a side by side comparison.

Chris
 
The lights are installed. There is an improvement, but it is hard to quantify. I tried to take identical pictures, i.e., same F-stop, speed and ISO settings. However, I'm just a little off on positioning. Across both pictures, I'm a little farther back with the LED headlights. Not enough to make much difference for what you see though.

I was hoping for double the light output since the LED bulbs put out 3400 lumens compared to about 1500 lumens for a halogen H7. I don't think it is that much at all.

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You may see something different than I'm getting from this. But here's what I'm getting from this.
  • The light is whiter. Is it brighter?
  • The cutoff against the garage door is acceptable and far better than I've seen on another bike with HID lighting. In all cases, I'm holding the bike from moving with my right foot on the brake, which means the bike is slightly leaning to the left.
  • The light is concentrated in the middle...where the road will be. That's an advantage I think, because it is covering about double the area.

I noticed when I moved my Subaru back into the driveway that the lights are aimed higher than I have on the bike. I'm thinking I can move part of that light seen in the driveway picture out a little farther and get some additional reach on the beam pattern without blinding anyone.

All in all, while not a dramatic change, I'm happy. I'm getting better lighting...and saving about 50 watts total in my alternator budget.

Chris
 
All in all, while not a dramatic change, I'm happy. I'm getting better lighting...and saving about 50 watts total in my alternator budget.

Chris
Thanks for the write-up and pics, Chris. Exactly what I was wanting to know (how much light they throw out, not necessarily how bright they appear to oncoming traffic).
 
I took the bike down the driveway again and adjusted the headlight up some. There's enough light output to do that and not have the light pattern washed out. I'll do some checking to make sure I'm not blinding others. I try to be real sensitive to that. There's so much traffic around here and folks are getting older with the resulting difficulty in quickly adjusting to bright lights shining in their eyes. I'd hate to contribute to someone having an accident.

Chris
 
Did any of you guys find a LED parking light bulb that didn't trip the "Bulb" warning light? If so, could you provide a link or tell which brand and specs work? I tried one from Advanced Auto, but it tripped the warning light.
 
I wish that I had heard of these sooner - many thanks for the tip. I imported a pair of the Cycloc LED H7s to the UK (zero import duty, just VAT and extra ÂŁ8 added by Royal Mail). A quick scan of Amazon Japan shows a huge number of lower quality and lower output ones, so these are very good.

I made no modifications to either low or high beam caps: inserting the controller inside the housing in the space behind the reflector is easily done in the dark for the low beam. For the high-beam, it was extremely awkward and I waited for daylight, but I did succeed (there seems to be only one possible way to cram the controller inside and even that makes the final '1/8th turn' of the lamp awkward).

Even though no aim adjustment was legally necessary, I found during filtering that motorists did not associate the brighter light with a bike (so were slower to react than before (old headlight + two LED spots)), so I dropped the 'heavy luggage' aiming lever down and, all-round, that works better for me and is still a stunning enhancement in the sticks.
 
Be carefull cramming it all inside the housing. I managed to pop the adjuster ball and socket apart with my install and it was just the connector I was trying to fit in. Getting that ball & socket back together is right royal pita. See my post on the subject...
 
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These are onsale at ADVMonster for the holidays.

I haven't tried them on my BMW but I got an H4 for my KLR650 and it works great. The ones
ADVMonster is selling now look smaller...was a bit hard to fit into my klr light fixture.
 
Discussion starter · #56 ·
Hello Remi!

Thank you for this post! I am trying to switch out my lights as well and I need a cover like yours. Can I get a CAD file of what you made? Or, how can I get the number to the company that made it for you? Please advise. Thank you!
 
Discussion starter · #59 ·
Hello Remi!

Thank you for this post! I am trying to switch out my lights as well and I need a cover like yours. Can I get a CAD file of what you made? Or, how can I get the number to the company that made it for you? Please advise. Thank you!
Hi,
assuming you want to change both low beam and high beam you will need two covers.
You can get them readymade there :https://www.shapeways.com/shops/remiepron

cheers,

Blueskip
 
Hello everyone! It have been a year since I put these lights in and after that time and about 6K miles, they are doing great. I had originally planned on adding some kind of aux lighting but haven't gotten around to it after changing my lights to this system. If you are on the fence on this, just do it!
 
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